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Post by Jets and Chargers on Feb 2, 2022 17:22:33 GMT
Gentlemen: I am also in a Spring League where we draft now for the 2020 card set (24 teams/keeper league). I think this is an interesting way to grade your "Fall" draft. Here is how the picks went:
Round 1 1 Herbert 2 Burrow 3 Jonathan Taylor 4 Justin Jefferson 5 AJ Terrell 6 Tristan Wirfs 7 Chase Young 8 Jalen Hurts 9 Trevon Diggs 10 Ceedee Lamb 11 Antoine Winfield 12 Jeremy Chinn 13 Tee Higgins 14 Michael Pittman 15 Jaylon Johnson (me) 16 Cameron Dantzler 17 Antonio Gibson 18 Mychal Walker (Van -- team is loaded and he needs the number for an Excellent defense) 19 Jordan Mailata 20 Derrick Brown 21 Michael Onwenu 22 Chase Claypool 23 Isaiah Simmons 24 Bryce Hall
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Post by huntleybrian8 on Feb 2, 2022 18:14:33 GMT
I'm surprised a few of these guys didn't go a wee bit higher (Pittman, Young, Tee, Winfield)
Still love to see how other Strat minds are thinking!
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Post by Jets and Chargers on Feb 2, 2022 18:26:09 GMT
Round 2
1 Andrew Thomas 2 Mechti Becton 3 Aldon Smith 4 Willie Gay 5 Kristian Fulton 6 Tua Tagovailoa 7 Kyle Dugger 8 Jonah Williams 9 Xavier McKinney 10 JK Dobbins 11 Damien Harris 12 Darnell Mooney 13 DAndre Swift 14 Jordyn Brooks 15 Jonathan Greenard 16 LJarius Sneed (me) 17 Clyde Edwards-Helaire 18 Jedrick Wills 19 Patrick Queen 20 Jordan Fuller 21 Kamren Curl 22 Logan Wilson 23 AJ Dillon 24 Ezra Cleveland
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Post by Jets and Chargers on Feb 2, 2022 18:51:01 GMT
Another Spring League Draft -- SSFA -- From the Strat Fan Forum:
1 Jonathan Taylor (has Josh Allen at QB) 2 Herbert 3 Burrow 4 AJ Terrell 5 Justin Jefferson 6 Tristan Wirfs 7 Jalen Hurts 8 Chase Young 9 Trevon Diggs 10 Damien Harris 11 Andrew Thomas 12 Jordan Mailata 13 Ceedee Lamb 14 Tua 15 Antoine Winfield 16 James Robinson 17 Tee Higgins 18 Jedrick Willis 19 JK Dobbins 20 Antonio Gibson 21 Willie Gay 22 Jonah Williams 23 Xavier McKinney 24 AJ Dillon
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Post by Pat Hoglund on Feb 2, 2022 19:29:45 GMT
Aldon Smith in the 2nd rd?
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Post by Jets and Chargers on Feb 2, 2022 20:03:27 GMT
Your defensive cards improve with your ratings (so the 4 run defense is nice)
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Post by Ryan D (Ravens & Redskins) on Feb 2, 2022 23:04:17 GMT
Your defensive cards improve with your ratings (so the 4 run defense is nice) For anyone confused about what Rich is referring to...some leagues use a formula based on your players ratings to determine which draft league cards you use for that season (Excellent, Good, Average, etc.). Below is an example of the formula - I'm sure its similar to what Rich uses in his spring league. 4-3 run defense = total run rating of the four Defensive Linemen + 0.5x run rating of the three Linebackers 4-3 pass defense = total pass rating of the four Defensive Backs + 0.5x pass rating of the three Linebackers 3-4 run defense = total run rating of the three Defensive Linemen + 0.75x run rating of the two Inside Linebackers + 0.5x run rating of the two Outside Linebackers 3-4 pass defense = total pass rating of the four Defensive Backs + 0.25x pass rating of the two Inside Linebackers + 0.5x pass rating of the two Outside Linebackers Once you have your totals, the scale determines which level of cards you use. The levels required are the same for both run and pass. Excellent Card - combined rating of 30 or better Good Card - combined rating of at least 27, but less than 30 Average Card - combined rating of at least 23, but less than 27 Poor Card - combined rating of at least 20, but less than 23 Very Poor Card - combined rating of less than 20I've played in a couple leagues like this. This method has its pros and cons just like any. Some are slightly different as well. I have seen a couple that include a portion of the Strong Safety run rating in the run formula, etc.
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Post by pbisiules on Feb 3, 2022 0:55:18 GMT
This seems that it could double dip and allow dominant defenses. What we have now allows Good rated players to make more plays than previous method
But if the defense ratings bump up the card too you could have great defensive cards with fewer yards plus your Defender will stop the extra yards. That seems a double dip.
I know this wasn't proposed or anything so just considering a comment about the cons of this. Did you feel this way when playing this method?
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Post by allday28 on Feb 3, 2022 1:52:49 GMT
Gentlemen: I am also in a Spring League where we draft now for the 2020 card set (24 teams/keeper league). I think this is an interesting way to grade your "Fall" draft. Here is how the picks went: Round 1 1 Herbert 2 Burrow 3 Jonathan Taylor 4 Justin Jefferson 5 AJ Terrell 6 Tristan Wirfs 7 Chase Young 8 Jalen Hurts 9 Trevon Diggs 10 Ceedee Lamb 11 Antoine Winfield 12 Jeremy Chinn 13 Tee Higgins 14 Michael Pittman 15 Jaylon Johnson (me) 16 Cameron Dantzler 17 Antonio Gibson 18 Mychal Walker (Van -- team is loaded and he needs the number for an Excellent defense) 19 Jordan Mailata 20 Derrick Brown 21 Michael Onwenu 22 Chase Claypool 23 Isaiah Simmons 24 Bryce Hall
3 Giants
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Post by Ryan D (Ravens & Redskins) on Feb 3, 2022 2:48:30 GMT
This seems that it could double dip and allow dominant defenses. What we have now allows Good rated players to make more plays than previous method But if the defense ratings bump up the card too you could have great defensive cards with fewer yards plus your Defender will stop the extra yards. That seems a double dip. I know this wasn't proposed or anything so just considering a comment about the cons of this. Did you feel this way when playing this method? I 100% agree with your analysis, Pete. I was not a giant fan of this method. It’s difficult to win when having a poor/very poor defense and bad numbers on top of it. On the flip side, playing against teams with good numbers and good/excellent cards made it extremely hard to move the ball. It was unenjoyable to play against one of those teams. also in my experience, teams with the good cards and player would do very little moving of players while on defense. They would mostly just stand pat and call run/pass and let the cards do the work for them. In my opinion, the cons of this system outweigh the pros. It’s better in theory than in practice.
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